cleo - although I understand what you're trying to say I think you're missing the point that some people are just not in that state of mind to 'stop and think'. As a result, you apparently cannot show compassion for this woman and want to judge her by logical measures. Very useful skills indeed! A heavily pregnant woman died this morning after jumping in front of a high-speed train - also killing her unborn baby. We had a discussion about having another child, I told her we had two wonderful children and I did not feel it was necessary to have a third and I thought she agreed,' the heartbroken husband said. I also very much doubt that she was in any kind of logical state of mind when she did this. 40.680481 -73.843731. As Cleo said - a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Having been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, the court heard how Zdenka was not 'terribly keen' on taking her medication and following her discharge from mental health services in March 2017, she kept her husband in the dark and stopped taking it, despite advice. I have contemplated running away from seemingly insurmountable life problems through death at least twice in my lifetime. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to While it is a sad event, the method in which she did was selfish to say the least. If you are screwed up, go into that forest at the foot of Fuji and do us all a favour PS - don't wanna sound callous, she may have been mentally sick, but it's possible this selfish woman has destroyed other people's lives. She was, probably as a result of her morbidly depressed state of mind thinking and acting selfishly, ie without thought of others. If you've been impacted by this story, Samaritans is a confidential emotional support service for anyone in the UK and Ireland. In a moving tribute, her husband JudeYabani told an inquest: 'I will never regret having her in my life.'. I am not trying to be rude but making statements like "taking it out on others" is ridiculous. See, I bet this woman wished she could have been part of that society too, going to work, having a routine, getting on with an ordinary life, having someone to complain to, to vent, to get it out of her system. She was seen 'pushing' and 'kicking' against a gate to the platform. This woman was obviously highly coordinated, had excellent timing and gymnastics ability. Don't you think that's part of the problem here guys? Girl, 2, looks star-struck as she presents Kate with a gift of Daffodils for St David's A bargain fit for a king: Grade II-listed manor house complete with barn and gatehouse is listed at auction Who said black and white pics were flattering! Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. Kiosk and bystanders apparently unhurt. And again, now you're going to have several other people at least suffer from stress, trauma (possibly even PTSD) and mental troubles caused by this woman's actions. They charge millions of yen for stoppages, extra work, etc Mother-of-four killed herself by jumping in front of train at packed station moments after sending a text and handing her bag to a stranger Woman was killed yesterday at Wigan North Western . Or do you think it's more 'compassionate' to just tut-tut and let the suicidal get on with it? I think you completely missed the point of my 'taking it out on others' comment - I'm not referring to her killing herself, I am referring to her doing it in public, needlessly traumatizing so many others. A tragedy and a waste of a life. Expect delays on 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 trains. She had to have felt some pain there. i wish people who post here would Learn MORE about Japan There is something seriously wrong with a lot of peoples thinking here and i think you need to add a bit of humanity and empathy to your souls. We don't know anything about her life I sort of agree that we don't have to critise herBut this happened to my husband many years ago - the guy standing next to him suddently approached the train as it was about to stop and the train hit him in the head. Sorry to sound flippant, but every life lost is (often) another 3,4,5 scarred. A 35-year-old man allegedly died by suicide by jumping in front of a suburban train in Maharashtra's Thane district, a police official said on Thursday. Too bad about the woman who died, but I'm glad for the four who apparently weren't badly hurt. Suicide is complex, but without a doubt, there needs to be FAR more done here for mental illness. At 6.30am that morning, at which time Melsadie was with her father Leroy Parris, Ms Redmond had checked her bank balance at a garage. Bad decision on her part. bass4funk; terruble, you were late 3 times because someone ended their life. 2023 GPlusMedia Inc. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. Tel: +81 3 5829 5900 That's what this woman did, she took her personal problem and ruined a whole bunch of strangers' lives with them. Somehow she didn't fit in to it. There is SOME counselling, but it's still woefully inadequate and carries a certain stigma with it. 7 train at the 40th Street-Lowery Street station in Sunnyside around 4:15 a.m., cops said. Felicia Garcia, 15, was reportedly tormented by her peers at Tottenville High School, who teased her about sexual encounters with football players, police sources told the New York Daily News. "There was no criminal activity. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. Whenever something like this happens, there's someone whose job it is to clean up the mess. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please I wonder what happened ? However, they returned just 12 minutes later at 8.17pm. Steve's right! Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata on suicide. Police are currently trying to identify the deceased. Life is not just some inconvenience. 'When she was well, we never had confrontations, the only time we argued was when she didn't want to take her medication. Have it government regulated? The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Morre and more we see a lack of empathy for those who suffer.Modern society? Furious motorist is fined 650 after council worker paints disabled bay around his parked car. Regardless of her true mental state prior to jumping, I place blame for neither the damages nor the resulting trauma on that woman. When the temperature gets hotter,many people do strange things they would not have done in a normal situation. They lose their self esteem completely and compound with bad the economy, two-thirds of the people in Japan has money worries and they are feeling helpless. Why, no, of course I'm not being sarcastic! Steve@CPFC - 100% agree with all of your posts on this thread. Cleo -- aecho11 says it all. I mean why would you say that about a dead person unless you were either completely without an ounce of compassion in your heart, socially maladriot, or you knew and hated the person. If she'd had someone to listen to her - really listen - this might not have happened. The coroner said Ms Redmond was mainly carrying Melsadie during the time she was at the station, but was also seen walking hand in hand with her at various stages. 2. She had jumped in front of the train with her . Spend some time reading up about mental illness and especially depression. It would be great if everyone in the world was apart of a single global consciousness. Having said that I still agree that public suicide is not and should not be acceptable. 'It was completely out of the blue, it scared me. I think we all have contemplated it at one time or another? Gleams Akihabara 703 it has NOTHING to do with it. Better to choose death. |. 35.000 last year, which roughly means 100 per day, which turn to be one every 15 minutes more or less She was behind on her rent, etcetera. It is thinking like that that results in Japan having such a pathetic mental health system, and mental illness still having such a stigma here. Reply. 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Theres NO reason to be a coward & end it. Awareness of the effects of one's actions on others yet choosing in one's own favor is a requisite of selfishness, and this woman, in all likelyhood, wasn't. I've been close enough to the edge that I remember feeling nothing but fear, just being scared to hell, and debilitating sadness. A six-month-old baby boy died Friday after a woman jumped in front of an oncoming subway train at St. Clair West station. I am even more glad like i choose to work from home, never socialse anymore and just be with those who matter. I think I'd be sick to my stomach if I witnessed that. Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter today, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC told Beaconsfield Coroner's Court: 'Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform down to what is known as the forefoot and is then struck by the train.'. Police say although there were no eyewitnesses to the incident, the events were captured by a station security camera. I agree with steve@CPFC, there is no point trying to criticize this person. More people rush to help the duo, and they are eventually pulled onto the platform. British Transport Police subsequently declared the deaths a suspicious incident. Compassion is free. Mr Wade asked the officer: 'I think your financial investigator looked at whether she had made a voluntary arrangement in terms of indebtedness through court proceedings. To request removal of your name from an arrest report, submit these required items to arrestreports@patch.com. sadly it does. I have no doubt some do it for the attention, and others are afraid if they did it somewhere privately they might not be found (right away, if not for a long time). 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The comments below have been moderated in advance. How on earth her family have to pay ? contact the editor here. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? 'Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour.'. alot of people do this to make other people suffer & have regret. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . As for the act being selfish - of course it is. Take the quiz: How well do you know LIV Golf? I dont believe that the people who saw what happened really have registered in their minds what they saw. Who "died" and made you the queen of Japanese suicide ethics/morality? One last thing: I don't think it's entirely wrong to criticize this woman's act to an extent. To his horror, later that evening Zdenka walked through the door, doused in diesel fuel. ( ) A. bad B. badly C. good D . Female carer who bit off part of a pub landlady's ear during vicious bar brawl is jailed for 14 months. It is six minutes after she places herself onto that platform that she places herself in the path of the train.'. The . So what's the point trying to analyze it? Rangers trade Kravtsov, waive Leschyshyn, Giants, Jets fans among most passionate in NFL: report, PIX11 talks with Adam Korsak ahead of NFL Combine, Moose on the Loose: New York basketball is fun again. "Why couldnt I help?" I'm sure they're terribly rattled, though. Obviously the woman had problems, but if she left a family behind not only will she have shocked them deeply by killing herself, but she might be making them lose a lot more than that as well. 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Then, it sort of happened to me as well as I was waiting for Keio line - a girl and her mom were sitting on the bench and as the train approached the girl tried to jump. Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. We should be sad that a woman couldn't face anymore life and think of her family who have lost a loved one. If you want to feel preachy you can even require psychological counseling but give them some out of the way place to do it. Southbound 2 and 3 trains are running local from 96th Street to Times Square-42nd Street. Get real. There are many many reasons for that, from mental illness to terminal illness to simple congenital self-centredness; but with the possible exception of the terminally ill, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem that leaves far too much mess for those left behind to have to clean up. Her movements around the station, going from one side of the station to the other, going down to the station and back up, was an unusual pattern of behaviour. A mess, yes. But what she did was still selfish in the end, and many others are paying for and WILL pay for it. If you must kill yourself, put your affairs in order first and choose a method that doesn't leave a gory mess. The law is illogical and wrong, because it can make you to use "super glue" ,so to speak, to join each family member together 24/7 for just having peace of mind. I personally think the whole 'ganbare' and 'I must not make a scene' are partially to blame. Young mother, 27, who was behind on her rent and bills as she struggled with cost of living took her three-year-old daughter by the hand and walked in front of a train, inquest hears Mr Wade said: 'The next thing she appears to do, she does when no member of the public is in her immediate vicinity. NDTV delivers reliable information across all platforms: TV, Internet and Mobile.Subscribe for more videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/ndtv?sub_confirmation=1Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ndtvFollow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ndtvDownload the NDTV Apps: http://www.ndtv.com/page/appsWatch more videos: https://khabar.ndtv.com/videos?yt She died at the scene. . I think most people sadly have had some kind of contact with mental illness and/or suicide by the time they reach "our age". 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